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Toyota hiding easter egg on GT 86/Subaru BRZ?
Dec 07, 2011 - 10:54 PM - by Scion Forums
Filed under: Coupe, Performance, Scion, Subaru, Toyota, Design/Style



According to our recent and completely unscientific poll, the majority of our readership prefers the Subaru BRZ to its kissing cousin, the Toyota GT 86. Just about half of those who clicked an opinion on our poll sided with the Subie, while the remainder were split - a quarter went with the Toyota and a quarter said the two cars were so similar that it didn't matter.

Similar they are, with different grilles, front fascias and badges standing out as the main differentiators. The rest is pretty much the same, right down to the front and rear lights. And, according to Automotive News at least, there's a little bit of Toyota trickery at work in the styling.

Take a close look at the rear of either the GT 86 or BRZ. Incorporating both the reverse lights and a rear foglight in the center between the dual exhaust tips is a distinctive element with a prominent inverted triangle shape. According to Toyota, that design "stands for Toyota's 'T' shape" and is meant to 'express its identity.'

That's all well and good, but it's also present on the Subaru, which is otherwise completely absent of any Toyota badging, for obvious reasons. This is especially noteworthy since Toyota led the car's styling and bodyshape while Subaru invested its resources on the engine and chassis.

Is there a conspiracy at play? We doubt it. It seems more likely that the rear element is meant to recall nothing more than the safety light on Formula 1 cars, and the fact that it's an inverted triangle is a clever way for Toyota's marketing team to highlight the dual-headed-machine's Toyota-bred styling work.

Finally, consider the fact that the Scion FR-S, which is what Toyota's version of the coupe will be sold as in the United States, also features the exact same rear lighting element. In case you hadn't noticed... there's no 'T' in Scion, either.Toyota hiding easter egg on GT 86/Subaru BRZ? originally appeared on Autoblog on Wed, 07 Dec 2011 14:31:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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In the Metal: Toyota GT 86 vs. Subaru BRZ [w/poll]
Dec 03, 2011 - 5:56 AM - by Scion Forums
Filed under: Coupe, Performance, Japan, Videos, Tokyo Motor Show, Scion, Subaru, Toyota, UK



Badge engineering is the ironic label for when a company replaces the badge or branding of a product with that of another and considers it something new. Domestic automakers like Ford, General Motors and Chrysler have been vilified for their overuse of this practice. Then again, they weren't often badge engineering rear-wheel-drive sports cars (though they've done that, too).

This week, Toyota and Subaru both revealed their own versions of a RWD sports car jointly developed between the two companies: the GT 86 and BRZ. You'd be hard-pressed to tell them apart from a distance of 30 yards, but we got up close and personal with each at the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show this week and discovered that there are, in fact, subtle differences.

Since we'll be getting the also-slightly different Scion FR-S in the U.S., this exercise is really aimed at our European readers who will be offered the GT 86, but everyone's free to participate.

We've got videos of each model in the metal after the jump, and after you watch, let us know which one you prefer in the poll below.

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In the Metal: Toyota GT 86 vs. Subaru BRZ [w/poll] originally appeared on Autoblog on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:59:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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2013 Scion FR-S marks Toyota's return to performance in U.S.
Dec 01, 2011 - 6:37 AM - by Scion Forums
Filed under: Coupe, Performance, Scion, Toyota



With the introduction tonight of the 2013 Scion FR-S, the triumvirate of oh-so-similar sport coupes born of the joint venture between Toyota and Subaru is complete. The FR-S is what we Americans will get from the Scion brand, as opposed to the Toyota GT 86 that Europeans get and the Subaru-branded BRZ.

Believe it or not, but the FR-S will make Scion a five-car brand when it joins the xD, xB, tC and iQ next year. It is by far the most performance-oriented, thanks to its rear-wheel-drive architecture, relatively light weight and low center of gravity, the latter thanks to its Subaru-derived four-cylinder 2.0-liter boxer engine with Toyota's D4-S direct injection system. As with the GT 86 and BRZ, the FR-S will also produce 200 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 151 lb-ft at 6,600 rpm. Transmission choices are also the same with a six-speed manual or automatic with paddle shifters.

With its introduction, the FR-S also marks the return of some excitement to Toyota's lineup of products in the U.S., even if it is branded as a Scion. The Japanese automaker hasn't offered a true performance machine in the U.S. since the MR2 Spyder ended production in 2007. The more hardcore Supra disappeared from American soil almost a decade earlier in 1998.

We're busy grabbing the first live shots of the FR-S at its unveiling in LA, so go ahead and hop past the jump to read the official word from Toyota, which is the same as it was for the GT 86 and BRZ, while we keep shooting.Continue reading 2013 Scion FR-S marks Toyota's return to performance in U.S.

2013 Scion FR-S marks Toyota's return to performance in U.S. originally appeared on Autoblog on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:48:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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Scion considering Daihatsu-based pickup for US?
Nov 11, 2011 - 6:44 AM - by Scion Forums
Filed under: Truck, Work, Scion, Rumormill



The mini-truck is dead. Long live the mini-truck!

We aren't alone in our love for compact cargo haulers. AutoGuide recently took the time to sit down with Jack Hollis, the vice president of Scion, who apparently shares our affinity for the smallest of pickups. While Hollis didn't go so far as to say that a Scion pickup was first on his list of things to do, he did mention that he's very interested in the idea and that a lot of Scion customers are, as well.

Don't think that means we'll see Scion-badged Toyota Tacoma models roaming the wastes anytime soon, though. Hollis says that in an ideal world, Scion would partner up with Daihatsu to create an entirely new vehicle in a similar fashion as what Scion cooked up with Subaru for the FR-S. Dragging one of the Toyota subsidiary's current products through the federalization gauntlet would cost more than the effort would be worth, Hollis says.

We won't exactly hold our breath for the model to arrive anytime soon, but we're still thrilled to hear that the upper ranks of at least one automaker is giving the mini-truck segment serious consideration.Scion considering Daihatsu-based pickup for US? originally appeared on Autoblog on Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:58:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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Sibal wins Scion Tuner Challenge, walks away with $10K
Nov 04, 2011 - 4:04 AM - by Scion Forums
Filed under: SEMA Show, Hatchback, Scion, Specialty



Rendering wizard and friend of Autoblog Jon Sibal (above left) managed to beat out a race-prepped iQ and a mid-engine version of the ultra-compact to take the win at this year's Scion Tuner Challenge at SEMA.

Sibal, who's brought a range of vehicles to Vegas in the past, partnered up with Veilside and Mike Vu (above right) to create one particularly insane creation fitted with a $7,000 prototype Veilside body kit, a special brew of matte bronze 3M paint and a 32-inch flatscreen fitted to a motorized mount that allows it to fit flush in the trunk. And there's apparently still room for groceries.

Sibal and Vu had been pushing for a partnership for some time and this iQ is the fruit of two months' worth of labor. Sibal and his team snagged a piston trophy for their efforts and a check for $10,000, which should help pay off the build. Or at least part of it...Sibal wins Scion Tuner Challenge, walks away with $10K originally appeared on Autoblog on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:32:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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